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	<title>Comments on: Frameworks Are Like Sonnets</title>
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		<title>By: Phil Crissman</title>
		<link>http://philcrissman.com/2008/04/29/frameworks-are-like-sonnets#comment-1976</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Crissman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ro, I'm with you, don't disagree with your points at all. 

Like I said, though, I just wasn't aiming for that level direct analogy with the original comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ro, I&#8217;m with you, don&#8217;t disagree with your points at all. </p>
<p>Like I said, though, I just wasn&#8217;t aiming for that level direct analogy with the original comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Ro</title>
		<link>http://philcrissman.com/2008/04/29/frameworks-are-like-sonnets#comment-1975</link>
		<dc:creator>Ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, time to geek this thread out:

japanese  ruby
english  php

meter  framework

sonnet  RoR 
iambic pentameter   PHPCake 
haiku   Ramaze 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnet_18  Highrise 

BTW, anyone internet technology person who can explain any aspect of what they do to their mom *is* a genius :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, time to geek this thread out:</p>
<p>japanese  ruby<br />
english  php</p>
<p>meter  framework</p>
<p>sonnet  RoR<br />
iambic pentameter   PHPCake<br />
haiku   Ramaze </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnet_18" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnet_18</a>  Highrise </p>
<p>BTW, anyone internet technology person who can explain any aspect of what they do to their mom *is* a genius :)</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Crissman</title>
		<link>http://philcrissman.com/2008/04/29/frameworks-are-like-sonnets#comment-1974</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Crissman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, a better analogy might have been that, say, frameworks are to programming in general as poetic forms (such as a sonnet or haiku) are to poetry in general. Maybe.

@ro; I know the analogy is a stretch, but keep in mind, I was talking to my mom, who neither knows about nor cares about the details which would make the analogy perfect. She was just curious what this "Ruby on Rails" was that I was using.

For what it is -- a non-technical explanation of a framework -- I still think the analogy works pretty well. As a perfect one-to-one analogy... no, of course not. ;-)

While I'm thinking about it, &lt;a href="http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/camping" rel="nofollow"&gt;camping&lt;/a&gt; seems more like the haiku of frameworks...

EDIT: apologies to those whose comments only just appeared now. For some reason akismet wanted to call them spam...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a better analogy might have been that, say, frameworks are to programming in general as poetic forms (such as a sonnet or haiku) are to poetry in general. Maybe.</p>
<p>@ro; I know the analogy is a stretch, but keep in mind, I was talking to my mom, who neither knows about nor cares about the details which would make the analogy perfect. She was just curious what this &#8220;Ruby on Rails&#8221; was that I was using.</p>
<p>For what it is &#8212; a non-technical explanation of a framework &#8212; I still think the analogy works pretty well. As a perfect one-to-one analogy&#8230; no, of course not. ;-)</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m thinking about it, <a href="http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/camping" rel="nofollow">camping</a> seems more like the haiku of frameworks&#8230;</p>
<p>EDIT: apologies to those whose comments only just appeared now. For some reason akismet wanted to call them spam&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mrben</title>
		<link>http://philcrissman.com/2008/04/29/frameworks-are-like-sonnets#comment-1973</link>
		<dc:creator>mrben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you'll find that sonnets are like frameworks ;) they are a framework for writing poetry. So are haikus. But still - good analogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ll find that sonnets are like frameworks ;) they are a framework for writing poetry. So are haikus. But still - good analogy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ro</title>
		<link>http://philcrissman.com/2008/04/29/frameworks-are-like-sonnets#comment-1972</link>
		<dc:creator>Ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Framework-based applications are like sonnets; frameworks themselves are like meters -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meter_%28poetry%29

Still, good near-analogy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Framework-based applications are like sonnets; frameworks themselves are like meters &#8212; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meter_%28poetry%29" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meter_%28poetry%29</a></p>
<p>Still, good near-analogy!</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Crissman</title>
		<link>http://philcrissman.com/2008/04/29/frameworks-are-like-sonnets#comment-1971</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Crissman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@martin Well what do you know. That would explain the traffic spike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@martin Well what do you know. That would explain the traffic spike.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chris corwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris corwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There once was a framework named Rails...</description>
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		<title>By: Tony Hillerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Hillerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And maybe good frameworks are like Haiku? At least the ones that are easy to start and clearly define the scope...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And maybe good frameworks are like Haiku? At least the ones that are easy to start and clearly define the scope&#8230;</p>
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